Committee leaders further pressured Cheatle to step down. Here’s the latest.
The leaders of the House oversight committee called on the Secret Service director, Kimberly A. Cheatle, to resign after her testimony on Monday in which she repeatedly refused to answer specific questions about the security failures that led to an assassination attempt of former President Donald J. Trump.
Representatives James R. Comer, Republican of Kentucky and the chairman of the committee, and Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the panel, joined several members of the committee in demanding Ms. Cheatle’s resignation.
Ms. Cheatle, appearing before the committee for more than four hours, called the shooting at the Trump rally in Butler, Pa., her agency’s “most significant operational failure” in decades. But she cited the continuing investigation when declining to answer queries about the would-be assassin’s access to the warehouse roof from which he fired, how he had managed to bring a firearm to the event, why Mr. Trump was allowed to come onstage despite warnings about a suspicious person and many other details.
Ms. Cheatle did reveal that she had expressed remorse to Mr. Trump. Asked by Representative Lauren Boebert, Republican of Colorado, whether she had apologized to the former president directly, Ms. Cheatle answered that she had.
A spectator at the rally was killed, and the former president and two attendees were injured in the July 13 shooting. In the days since, congressional committees have been investigating missteps by law enforcement before, during and after the attack.
“Because Donald Trump is alive, and thank God he is, you look incompetent,” said Representative Mike Turner, Republican of Ohio, calling for President Biden to fire Ms. Cheatle if she did not resign. “If Donald Trump had been killed, you would have looked culpable.”
Here’s what else to know:
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Pressure to resign: Mr. Raskin and Representative Ro Khanna, Democrat of California, joined many of their Republican colleagues in pushing for Ms. Cheatle to step down, while Mr. Comer said her agency had become the “face of incompetence.” Representative Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio and one of Mr. Trump’s closest allies, accused the Secret Service of “cutting corners.”
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Rebuffed requests: The Secret Service acknowledged on Saturday that it had turned down requests for additional federal resources sought by Mr. Trump’s security detail in the two years leading up to the attempted assassination. “For the event in Butler, there were no requests that were denied,” Ms. Cheatle told Congress.
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Breakdown in protection: The Secret Service faces questions over why the warehouse used by the shooter to fire at Mr. Trump was not included in the security perimeter zone. Also unclear is why the agency did not assign more local law enforcement officers to work outside the perimeter.
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Homeland Security review: The homeland security secretary, Alejandro N. Mayorkas, announced on Sunday members of a panel that will conduct an independent 45-day review of the security breakdown at the Trump rally. The Secret Service is a part of the department. President Biden had called for an independent investigation.
Comer and Raskin, the Republican and Democratic leaders of the House oversight committee, wrote a joint letter to Cheatle after the hearing calling for her resignation.
Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House oversight committee, calls for Cheatle to resign as the hearing is coming to a conclusion. He is the highest-ranking Democrat in Congress to do so.
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Under questioning from Representative Mike Waltz, Republican of Florida, Cheatle says she signed off on a social media post from her spokesman denying that requests from the Trump campaign for more resources were “rebuffed.” Republicans are holding out this post an example of the Secret Service misleading the public.
Representative Russell Fry, Republican of South Carolina, asked the Secret Service director when law enforcement changed from considering Crooks a suspicious figure to seeing him as a threat. Cheatle said this change came “seconds before the gunfire started.”
Representative Anna Paulina Luna, Republican of Florida, says she is requesting a perjury review of Cheatle’s testimony with the threat that a perjury charge could be brought against the director.
Cheatle confirmed that she spoke with former President Donald J. Trump and apologized to him after the assassination attempt.
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Representative Lisa McClain, Republican of Michigan, confronted Cheatle after not getting answers to some questions: “What are you covering up? What are you hiding, my friend?”
Cheatle responded: “I’m not covering anything up.”
Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, asked Cheatle if she had a timeline from the day of the shooting. “I have a timeline that does not have specifics,” Cheatle responded. “That’s shocking,” Greene responded.
Laughter could be heard after the response from Cheatle.
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Questions about the number of Secret Service agents assigned to events for the first lady, Jill Biden, versus one like the July 13 rally for former President Trump stem from a letter sent by Senator Chuck Grassley, Republican of Iowa, who said he has been in touch with law enforcement whistle-blowers.
A look at the questions the Secret Service director has not answered.
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During a hearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Reform on Monday, several lawmakers, both Republicans and Democrats, expressed frustration with Secret Service Director Kimberly A. Cheatle over the number of questions that she would not — or could not — answer.
Many times, Ms. Cheatle said she was waiting for reports to arrive to give her the requested information — nine days after the shooting. She said she was not trying to be evasive, but rather was trying to provide information that was accurate.
The following are some of the questions Ms. Cheatle was asked repeatedly that she did not answer:
Why did the Secret Service not station an agent on the warehouse roof that the gunman used as a sniper’s perch?
Ms. Cheatle was pressed repeatedly on this point. Her most detailed answer was in response to a question from Committee Chairman James Comer, Republican of Kentucky. Ms. Cheatle seemed to indicate that the Secret Service had left the rooftop unmanned on purpose, because, she said, the agency preferred “sterile” — presumably meaning empty — rooftops. Instead, she said, the warehouse rooftop was to receive “overwatch” — meaning law enforcement officers were supposed to watch that rooftop from another, higher perch.
“There was a plan in place to provide overwatch, and we are still looking into responsibilities, and who was going to provide overwatch,” Ms. Cheatle said.
How many Secret Service agents were assigned to protect President Trump in Butler, Pa.?
Ms. Cheatle declined to answer that question, or to say how many officers from other federal law enforcement agencies were on hand to supplement the Secret Service. “We feel that there was a sufficient number of agents assigned,” she told Mr. Comer.
Who decided that the warehouse roof should be outside the Secret Service’s security perimeter for Mr. Trump’s rally?
“I don’t have a specific person to identify for you,” Ms. Cheatle told Rep. Stephen Lynch, Democrat of Massachusetts.
Later, Rep. Michael Cloud, Republican of Texas, pressed Ms. Cheatle to say whether a Secret Service official had given final approval to the security plan for Mr. Trump’s rally. When Mr. Cloud pressed Ms. Cheatle to identify who had final sign-off, Ms. Cheatle said, “It’s a conjunction of personnel.”
In follow-up questions, she said she would not specify further during the hearing.
Why did the Secret Service allow former President Trump to take the stage, despite people in the crowd pointing out a gunman on the warehouse roof?
“If the detail had been passed information that there was a threat, the detail would never have brought the former president out onto stage,” Ms. Cheatle said.
She said that the Secret Service agents around the president had been aware of a suspicious person, but not a threat. “We are currently still combing through communications, and when communications were passed,” Ms. Cheatle said. She indicated to Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, Democrat of Illinois, that the Secret Service had not considered either pausing the rally or removing Mr. Trump from the stage before the shots were fired.
How did Mr. Crooks get his rifle up onto the warehouse roof? Did he leave it there before the rally?
“I do not have that information at this time,” Ms. Cheatle said.
Rep. Andy Biggs, Republican of Arizona, responded with the same frustration as other members of Congress.
“You should have come today ready to give us answers. I call upon you to resign today. Today!” Mr. Biggs told Ms. Cheatle.
What additional security steps did the Secret Service take after the U.S. learned about a potential Iranian plot to kill Mr. Trump?
Ms. Cheatle acknowledged that she had been aware of the Iranian threat to the former president, and that she had reviewed the intelligence behind it. But she did not reveal what security measures the Secret Service had put in place to counter the Iranian threat.
During the hearing, Rep. Michael R. Turner of Ohio, who chairs the House intelligence committee, said that the Secret Service had not included the warnings about Iran in its threat assessment for the Butler rally.
The Iranian threat stemmed from Tehran’s desire to avenge the strike ordered by Mr. Trump in January 2020 that killed Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, the Iranian security and intelligence commander responsible for the killing of American troops in Iraq. Mr. Turner claimed that Christopher A. Wray, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, was shocked that the Iranian information was not part of the Security Service threat assessment.
Ms. Cheatle said she thought the security in place at Butler was sufficient to deal with the Iranian threat.
“Is an Iranian assassin more capable than a 20-year-old?” Mr. Turner asked, seemingly sarcastically.
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Representative Tim Burchett, Republican of Tennessee, concludes his questioning by saying, “You are a D.E.I. horror story” to Cheatle. D.E.I. stands for “diversity, equity and inclusion,” which are efforts to increase the gender and racial diversity at organizations. That echoes sexist attacks lobbed by others on the right that part of the blame for the assassination attempt lies with efforts to add gender diversity to the Secret Service. Many of those attacks have been made against women working in the detail protecting Trump. No evidence has surfaced to show that those agents acted improperly.
Representative Rashida Tlaib, Democrat of Michigan, says the circumstances of the Butler, Pa., shooting match profiles of some mass shootings in her state and questions why Congress doesn’t hold hearings about the many lives lost to gun violence.
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Representative Jared Moskowitz, Democrat of Florida, compares Cheatle’s performance today to a recent hearing with university presidents that resulted in the presidents resigning.
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Asked why the event went forward despite repeated warnings of a suspicious person, Cheatle emphasized “the distinction between suspicious behavior and a threat.” This has been a core distinction in these exchanges: Crooks was identified as suspicious by law enforcement officers several times before the shooting but was initially unarmed.
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Cheatle’s comments in a TV interview that a “sloped roof” played a role in the Secret Service’s decision not to place someone on the roof where the gunman opened fire have come under intense scrutiny at this hearing.
Under questions from Representative Jake LaTurner, Republican of Kansas, Cheatle said the F.B.I. investigation had found that a local SWAT team spotted Crooks on the roof of a warehouse approximately 18 minutes before Trump took the stage. This differs from the accounts given by some local law enforcement officials, who said Crooks was seen around this time in the area but not on the roof.
Representative Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina, curses at Cheatle, prompting calls from other lawmakers for decorum.
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“You’re not making this easy for us,” said Representative Shontel Brown, Democrat of Ohio, after Cheatle would not answer her questions about staffing numbers at the rally.
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July 22, 2024, 12:06 p.m. ET
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Representative Andy Biggs, Republican of Arizona, asked if Crooks had placed the gun on the roof previously. “I do not have that information at this time,” she said. Cheatle has often deflected questions by saying she cannot share some details — but in this case she said she did not know herself.
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Ocasio-Cortez argues that law enforcement, after security failures, often sets up investigations that take months and that “corrective action is rarely taken” afterward. Ocasio-Cortez pushed Cheatle to be more “forthright” because the “stakes are too high.”
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Lawmakers are frustrated with a lack of answers to questions. Cheatle says she expects to have better answers within 60 days.
Cheatle said that the rooftop from which Crooks fired his shots was under “overwatch” at the time of the shooting, meaning it was being monitored by law enforcement. She did not say what agency was given responsibility for watching the building, although all of the local and state law enforcement agencies on scene that day have said that they were not given that task by the Secret Service.
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July 22, 2024, 11:41 a.m. ET
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Representative Michael Cloud, Republican of Texas, joins a series of committee members who appear frustrated by Cheatle, who has declined to answer most substantive questions. “You’re in charge of the investigation of your own failure. So how is anybody in America supposed to be able to trust the results of the investigation as being transparent and genuine?” Cheatle responded by saying she would have answers in the future. “I assure this committee that I will provide answers when we have a full and complete report,” she said. (Homeland Security has said that a bipartisan group of experts will conduct an independent review.)
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