Harris, Trump Scrap for Few Undecided Voters

• 00:00EVERYTHING FROM ARNOLD PALMER TO SUITING UP AT MCDONALD ‘ S YESTERDAY. THEY CLOSED WHILE HE WAS THERE, BY THE WAY. WHAT IS KAMALA HARRIS ‘ S CLOSING ARGUMENT? > > SHE IS CAMPAIGNING WITH LIZ CHENEY, THE REPUBLICAN WHO FAMOUSLY CAME OUT AGAINST TRUMP IN SUPPORT OF HARRIS. WE SAW TODAY LIZ CHENEY TELLING REPUBLICANS JUST OUTSIDE OF PHILADELPHIA, IT ‘ S OK TO VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS, WHICH IS WHAT HARRIS NEEDS RIGHT NOW. THE MARGIN IS SO SMALL IN THE SWING STATES AND THERE ARE SO FEW UNDECIDED VOTERS AT THIS MOMENT. KAILEY: WITH THAT IN MIND, IS IT REALLY ABOUT TRYING TO CHANGE MINDS AT THIS STAGE OR IS IT JUST GETTING EVERYONE WHO MIGHT BE IN YOUR CORNER SHOWING UP TO THE POLLS? > > THE TWO CANDIDATES COULD NOT BE MORE DIFFERENT. OUR REPORTING HAS INDICATED THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY UNDECIDED. THAT MARGIN IS VERY SMALL. THE UNDECIDED VOTER IS NOT ON THE CANDIDATE, IT ‘ S ON DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO VOTE. JOE: ONE POLL SHOWS REGISTERED VOTERS 47-47, A TRUE TIME. WITHIN ANY MARGIN IS STILL A STATISTICAL TIME. YOU TALK ABOUT UNDECIDED VOTERS, THERE ARE SO FEW OF THEM OUT THERE. > > WHAT YOU ‘ RE SEEING IS EACH CAMP IS TRYING TO HIT OR PEEL OFF A COUPLE OF PERCENTAGE POINTS FROM THE OTHER. YOU SAW THAT TODAY WITH CHENEY AND HARRIS AND WE WILL SEE THAT ACROSS THE BLUE WALL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. TRUMP IS TRYING TO PICK UP SOME SUPPORT AMONG BLACK MALE VOTERS, LATINO AND SOME JEWISH VOTERS AS WELL. ALL TRADITIONALLY HEAVILY DEMOCRATIC GROUPS, BUT HE SEES AN OPPORTUNITY, PARTICULARLY WITH THE ARGUMENT ON THE ECONOMY, WHERE HE DOES OUTPERFORM HARRIS IN TERMS OF VOTER RESPONSE. WE WILL SEE HIM DIGGING DOWN INTO THAT AS WELL. KAILEY: IT WAS FASCINATING IN THAT WASHINGTON POST POLL. THOSE UNDECIDED TEND TO BE YOUNGER AND THEY TEND TO BE VOTERS OF COLOR WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE SEEING TARGETING OF THE CANDIDATES MESSAGES. U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY BLINKEN IS HEADING TO THE MIDDLE EAST FOR HIS 11TH TRIP TO THE REGION SINCE OCTOBER 7 OF LAST YEAR, AS PRESIDENT BIDEN URGES ISRAEL TOWARD A CEASE-FIRE DEAL AFTER THE DEATH OF THE HAMAS LEADER LAST WEEK. > > WE DO WANT TO DE-ESCALATE THE TENSIONS AND ALSO PROVIDE THAT LASTING STABILITY. DO WE THINK THIS WILL HAVE AN EFFECT? WE BELIEVE AND THIS PRESIDENT BELIEVES A DIPLOMATIC CONVERSATION IS CERTAINLY KEY TO DEALING WITH ISSUES WE ARE SEEING ACROSS THE GLOBE. KAILEY: LET ‘ S BRING IN DAN FLATLEY WHO COVERS NATIONAL SECURITY FOR US. AN INTERESTING TIME FOR HIM TO GO TO THE REGION. THERE ‘ S OBVIOUSLY STILL CONFLICT RAGING IN MANY PARTS OF IT. IS THIS REALLY JUST TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY OF SINWAR ‘ S DEATH? > > I THINK THE PERSPECTIVE IS BASICALLY, YOU HAVE TO TRY. YOU HAVE A VERY UNUSUAL EVENT IN THE DISCOVERY OF THE DEATH OF SINWAR, AND YOU WANT TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT MOMENT WHILE IT IS IN FRONT OF YOU. EVEN IF THE PROSPECT FOR A CEASE-FIRE DEAL ARE STILL WHAT THEY WERE A MONTH AGO OR SIX MONTHS AGO, POTENTIALLY THAT EVENT ITSELF COULD PROVIDE SOME MOMENTUM. ALTHOUGH I THINK WE ARE UNLIKELY TO SEE ANYTHING HAPPEN BEFORE THE U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT ‘ S A BIG UNSETTLED EVENT OUT THERE THAT NEEDS TO ENTER INTO THE EQUATION WE NEED AN OUTPUT THERE, ANOTHER DATA POINT AS ALL THIS COMES TOGETHER. JOE: A SIGNIFICANT INTELLIGENCE LEAK OVER THE WEEKEND. THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTED ON THESE CLASSIFIED U.S. INTELLIGENCE DOCUMENTS THAT GIVE US A SENSE OF ISRAEL ‘ S PLAN TO RESPOND AGAINST IRAN. ARE YOU SURPRISED WE ARE SITTING HERE ON ANOTHER MONDAY WHEN THIS HASN ‘ T HAPPENED YET? > > I AM A LITTLE SURPRISED, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. YOU TYPICALLY WANT TO SEIZE THE INITIATIVE WITH THIS TYPE OF THING. ON THE OTHER HAND, FROM THE ISRAELI PERSPECTIVE THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE NECESSARILY TO WAITING. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS SOME BACK-AND-FORTH BETWEEN THE U.S. AND ISRAEL OVER WHICH TARGETS ISRAEL WILL STRIKE. IT SEEMS THAT AT THIS POINT WE ARE MOVED AWAY FROM EXPECT A STRIKE ON OIL SITES OR CIVILIAN SITES OR NUCLEAR SITES MAY BE MORE TOWARD MILITARY SITES. THAT IS PART OF THE EQUATION HERE TOO. KAILEY: DO WE EXPECT THAT RESPONSE COULD CHANGE ON AN ATTEMPT ON NETANYAHU? > > I DON ‘ T THINK THE RESPONSE WILL CHANGE MATERIALLY BECAUSE OF THAT. I DO THINK IT CERTAINLY ADDS TO THE SENSE THAT THIS WILL NOT BE OVER ANYTIME SOON. THE CONFLICT WILL CONTINUE ON BEYOND AN ISRAELI RESPONSE AND IT DOES MAKE A CEASE-FIRE AGREEMENT THAT MUCH HARDER TO REACH BECAUSE IT INDICATES THERE ARE SOME SUBSTANTIVE THREATS THAT WILL CONTINUE BEYOND AN ISRAELI RESPONSE. JOE: SHOULD WE ASSUME THAT ISRAEL WOULD HOLD OFF ON RESPONSE TO OUR BRAND IF SECRETARY BLINKEN IS IN THE REGION? > > I DON ‘ T THINK THEY WOULD HOLD OFF OR CARRY OUT A STRIKE BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THIS VISIT. OBVIOUSLY DIGNITARIES TRAVELING IN THE REGION IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER AS PART OF AN OVERALL SECURITY POSTURE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER, YOU DON ‘ T WANT TO GIVE AN INDICATION TO YOUR ENEMY THAT YOU ‘ RE GOING TO BE MORE LIKELY OR LESS LIKELY TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE OF AN EXHAUST GENESIS EVENT, SOMETHING HAPPENING OUTSIDE THE SECURITY SITUATION. IT ‘ S POSSIBLE THAT MIGHT ENTER INTO THEIR CALCULATION BUT I SORT OF DOUBT IT.

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